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S3 Ep. 17 Trach – DAOs are Orgs: Moving at the speed of trust (in a trustless environment)

S3 Ep. 17 Trach – DAOs are Orgs: Moving at the speed of trust (in a trustless environment)

June 21, 2022

Today we're joined by Tracheopteryx - or Trach - Pioneer of decentralized governance, operations, and compensation systems. Trach is co-founder of Coordinape and previous contributor to yearn finance.

 

In this conversation, we delve into what DAOs are and why the future lies in this framework. We also talk about the connection between ownership and decision making, striving for a 'trustless' infrastructure, why we might not see companies like Apple or Google 'go DAO' soon, the role of six-person teams - and why everyone working on DAOs are in essence collaborating on a creating a greater pie.

 

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/tracheopteryx/

 

Key highlights 

We discussed:

> What DAOs are and what key differences with corporate governance 

> Trustless mechanisms and the Blockchain

> How likely existing traditional players are to embrace DAOs

> What we mean by the word 'trustless'

> How non-developers can get involved with DAOs projects

 

To find out more about Trach’s work:

> Twitter: https://twitter.com/tracheopteryx 

> Website: https://coordinape.com/ 

 

Other references and mentions:

> Compensation in DAOs with Tracheopteryx on the Collectively Intelligent Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/compensation-in-daos-with-tracheopteryx/id1577798978?i=1000538952056 

> Helium: https://www.helium.com/technology  

> Colony: distributed organizations that actually work - with Aron Fischer and Jack du Rose: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/colony/  

> Moving beyond coin voting governance by Vitalik Buterin: https://vitalik.ca/general/2021/08/16/voting3.html 

> Blue Sky Project: https://blueskyweb.xyz/ 

> Thirsty Thirsty: https://www.thirstythirsty.org/  

> Ronald Coase, The Nature of the Firm, 1937: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-0335.1937.tb00002.x 

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

 

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music

 

Recorded on 3 June 2022.

S3 Ep. 16 Rob Solomon –  Building permissionless Ecosystems: Data and infrastructure at DIMO

S3 Ep. 16 Rob Solomon – Building permissionless Ecosystems: Data and infrastructure at DIMO

June 7, 2022

Today we’re joined by former guest to the show, Rob Solomon, a cofounder at DIMO, a blockchain enabled IoT protocol for mobility. His background is in finance, investing, and organizational design. Most recently, he worked at Consensys, the largest Ethereum focused development company, with a focus on finance, internal economics, and decentralizing the organization. Prior to that, he was at Vroom, a pioneer in the online used-car marketplace sector. He started his career at the Downtown Project in Las Vegas (a spinoff of Zappos.com) working on investments and implementing holacracy.  

 

Tune in to this episode as we discuss the latest developments in Rob’s work since he last spoke on the podcast, how DIMO is like building a city from scratch, understanding the main functions of an organization, and why the future is bright for DIMO. 

 

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website:

https://boundaryless.io/podcast/rob-solomon/

 

 

Key highlights we discussed:

> DIMO’s infrastructure and open-source technology

> Creating an organisation with permissionless contributions 

> The role of data unions in managing decentralized data ownership

> Defining decentralized organizing and DIMO’s ecosystem

> Redefining the thesis of ownership and incentives

> Raising capital for a Web3 project

 

To find out more about DIMO and Rob’s work:

> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertsolomon1/ 

> Twitter: https://twitter.com/robmsolomon 

> Website: https://dimo.zone/ 

> Application: https://app.dimo.zone/ 

> Written documentation on how DIMO works and the token: https://docs.dimo.zone/dimo-overview/overview/what-is-dimo 

 

Other references and mentions:

 

> Software and Protocols for a new way of Organizing — with Bryan Peters, Rob Solomon & Sascha Kellert: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/bryan-peters-and-sascha-kellert-and-rob-solomon/

> DIMO Podcast – Podcast #1: Rob Solomon & Kacy Qua: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gno-bhNHxGk

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

 

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music

 

Recorded on 17 May 2022.

S3 Ep. 15 Phoebe Tickell – Growing Institutional Imagination Capacity and Collective Intelligence in a Complex World

S3 Ep. 15 Phoebe Tickell – Growing Institutional Imagination Capacity and Collective Intelligence in a Complex World

May 24, 2022

Phoebe Tickell is a biologist and systems thinker developing methodologies and approaches  suited for a better world. She is an innovator with a background in the biological sciences, technology, social entrepreneurship and systems design. She left the scientific academy with the knowledge that an understanding of complex systems could be applied to real world pressing issues and that bridges were needed to stretch from theory to practice. 

She works across multiple societal contexts applying a complexity and systems thinking lens and has worked in organisational design, advised government, the education sector and the food and farming sector. She is a co-founder of the DGov Foundation – a community of distributed governance practitioners – and Member of Enspiral, a community that innovates in decentralising power and developing decentralised tools and technologies to do so. She also created Moral Imaginations in 2020 to push the frontier of research and implementation of research-backed collective imagination exercises and training to inspire change and find new solutions in an era of unprecedented disruption and potential for transformation.

It’s clear that society needs direction when it comes to change, and in today’s episode we explore how imagination gives us the ability to think beyond traditional frames. Join us as we delve into training a new breed of activists, mapping unintended consequences, how to coordinate at a massive scale – and accounting for future generations with the choices that we make.  

 

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/phoebe-tickell/

 

Key highlights we discussed:

> Why imagination has become central to building the future

> The moral elements of new ways of organising

> How diverse teams or communities can work from shared principles

> Why we need to stay connected to our local communities

> Why coordination is not ‘everything’ for DAOs 

 

To find out more about Phoebe’s work:

> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebetickell/ 

> Twitter: https://twitter.com/solarpunk_girl 

> Website: http://www.phoebetickell.com/ 

> Moral Imaginations: https://www.moralimaginations.com/ 

> Moral Imaginations Twitter: https://twitter.com/moral_imagining 

> Moral Imaginations Substack: https://moralimaginations.substack.com/ 

 

Other references and mentions:

 

> Indy Johar, A Development Future: https://medium.com/hub-engine/a-developmental-future-21bf6412625e  

> The Manifesto for Moral Imagination: https://medium.com/moral-imaginations/a-manifesto-for-moral-imagination-dbf62f0cb7aa 

> Trans-contextual Organizing: Shifting Perceptions — with Nora Bateson: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/nora-bateson/ 

> Daniel Schmachtenberger: https://civilizationemerging.com/about/ 

> Kevin Owocki, The Green Pill, with Phoebe Tickell: https://greenpill.substack.com/p/12-solarpunk-girl-phoebe-tickell?s=r 

> L. M. Sacasas – Building a convivial society: autonomy, tools, scale and capabilities: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/l-m-sacasas/

> MetaGov: https://metagov.org/

> Colony: distributed organizations that actually work – with Aron Fischer and Jack du Rose: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/colony/

> Samantha Slay, Going Horizontal: https://goinghorizontal.co/ 

> New Citizenship Project: https://www.newcitizenship.org.uk/

 

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

 

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music

 

Recorded on 19 April 2022.

S3 Ep. 14 Adam Jackson – Developing and Investing in Web3 Networks: Double Clicking on Braintrust

S3 Ep. 14 Adam Jackson – Developing and Investing in Web3 Networks: Double Clicking on Braintrust

May 10, 2022

Podcast notes

Adam Jackson founded Braintrust — the world’s first user-controlled talent platform — which aligns incentives, removes expensive middlemen and gives value and control back to talent and organizations. Prior to founding Braintrust, Adam co-founded Doctor on Demand, the popular video telemedicine provider, with daytime talk show personality Dr. Phil.

Other notable ventures include DriverSide, a marketplace that connects car owners with mechanics, which was acquired by Advance Auto Parts in September of 2011 and MarketSquare, the first online local shopping destination on the Internet which was acquired by Intuit in September of 2006. Adam is a passionate Angel investor in 100+ companies including LTSE, SuperHuman, Filecoin, Binance, BlockFi, Automatic, Apero Health, Zenefits, and more.

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/adam-jackson/

Key highlights

We discussed:

> How the Braintrust model and its nodes work

> Rewarding commercial nodes

> The role of the non-profit foundation and association in the system

> Maintaining the coherence of Braintrust

> Investing in user-owned networks

> Current experimentations in the token economy space

> The societal impact of having a decentralized talent network

To find out more about Adam’s work:

> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajackson/

> Twitter: https://twitter.com/adamjacksonsf

> Website: https://www.usebraintrust.com/

> Braintrust’s Discord Community: https://discord.gg/rgUS9aHFCB

Other references and mentions:

> Showing the way with Web3 Marketplaces: Braintrust — with Gabriel Luna-Ostaseski: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/braintrust/

> Braintrust: Fighting Capitalism with Capitalism, Not Boring with Packy McCormick https://www.notboring.co/p/braintrust-fighting-capitalism-with?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

> Deep dive on the Fee Converter https://medium.com/snowfork/introducing-the-braintrust-fee-converter-21be7c8af951

> Braintrust Academy: https://academy.usebraintrust.com/

> Kunai commercial node: https://www.usebraintrust.com/blog/new-node-addition-kunai

> Braintrust Etherscan: https://etherscan.io/address/0x799ebfabe77a6e34311eeee9825190b9ece32824

> Vitalik on quadratic voting: https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/12/07/quadratic.html

> Gitcoin: https://gitcoin.co/ 

> 100m $ investment round: https://www.usebraintrust.com/blog/-100m-btrst-purchase

> Dimo: https://dimo.zone

 

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music

Recorded on 23 March 2022.

S3 Ep. 13 Antoinette Weibel and Otti Vogt – The ‘Good’ and the ‘Bad’ organization: an ethics perspective

S3 Ep. 13 Antoinette Weibel and Otti Vogt – The ‘Good’ and the ‘Bad’ organization: an ethics perspective

April 26, 2022

Today we find out how to bridge philosophy, psychology and management science to understand how businesses can enable a "good society". We are joined by two experts in this field, Antoinette Weibel and Otti Vogt to find out what questions we need to be asking.

Professor Dr. Antoinette Weibel is full professor for human resource management at the University of St. Gallen. She is President of the Executive Committee of the Institute for Systemic Management and Public Governance at the University of St.Gallen, and a member of the Executive Committee of the Institute for Media and Communications Management and the Institute for Business Ethics at the University of St.Gallen. Her current core project, ‘Good Organisations’, asks how organisations can become better members of society. 

Otti is a disruptive thought leader with over 20 years experience in implementing strategic business change in multi-cultural, complex businesses and in crafting human-centric learning organisations. As COO and Chief Transformation officer in ING, he was until recently accountable for ING’s global digital transformation programme and continuous optimisation of operational service performance for more than 20m customers worldwide. He is also a certified leadership coach, associate of the Globally Responsible Leadership Initiative (GRLI) and was recently named Top 20 Global Thought Leader on Agile. 

Tune in to this episode as we explore the power of framing the right questions, how we can enable each others’ flourishing, the role of high quality relationships and active reflection – and why no singular idea will solve everything. 

 

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/antoinette-weibel-and-otti-vogt/ 

 

Key highlights we discussed:

> What do we mean by doing ‘good’ or ‘bad’ in business?

> The impact of plurality and multiculturalism

> The power of sociality and facilitating higher quality relationships

> Defining a ‘flourishing’ individual and society

> Balancing globalism vs community and landscape

 

 

To find out more about Otti and Antoinette’s work:

 

> Otti’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ottivogt

> Otti’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/Otti_Vogt   

> Antoinette’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoinette-weibel/  

> Antoinette’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/antoinetteprof 

> Website: https://goodorganisations.com/ 

Other references and mentions:

 

> Good Organisations’ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMTzXIuJLFz0IcJYztHPShQ 

> Building a convivial society: autonomy, tools, scale, and capabilities - with L.M. Sacasas: https://www.boundaryless.io/podcast/l-m-sacasas/ 

> Lorsch, Jay W. “Organization design: A situational perspective.” Organizational dynamics 6, no. 2 (1977): 2–14, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0090261677900420

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

 

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music

 

Recorded on 22 March 2022.

S3 Ep. 12 Jon Alexander – The citizen story: stepping into a many-to-many society

S3 Ep. 12 Jon Alexander – The citizen story: stepping into a many-to-many society

April 12, 2022

Jon Alexander began his career in advertising, winning the prestigious Big Creative Idea of the Year, before making a dramatic change. Driven by a deep need to understand the impact on society of 3,000 commercial messages a day, he gathered three Masters degrees, exploring consumerism and its alternatives from every angle.

 

In 2014, he co-founded the New Citizenship Project with Irenie Ekkeshi to bring the resulting ideas into contact with reality. Since then, they have been on a mission to figure out how to use our skills - not just to sell stuff - to Consumers, and involve people in the decisions that affect their lives as Citizens.

 

In this engaging conversation, Jon shares some great insights from his latest book Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us. We also explore how we can move away from being a passive consumer to being an active agent, how collective power leads to exponential results, the responsibility we have to build our own systems, and what a Citizen democracy means for the government.

 

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: boundaryless.io/podcast/jon-alexander/

 

Key highlights

We discussed:
> Defining Citizenship
> The Subject and Consumer stories versus the Citizen story
> How leaders of organizations can help to empower people to be Citizens
> Becoming active agents of change and investing in the future

 

To find out more about Jon's work:
> Twitter: twitter.com/jonjalex
> Website: www.jonalexander.net/
> New Citizenship Project: www.newcitizenship.org.uk/
> Jon Alexander, 'Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us', 2022: www.amazon.com/Citizens-Why-Key-…ing/dp/191245484X

 

Other references and mentions:
> Ouishare Fest: www.ouishare.net/fest
> Arlie Hochschild, The Deep Stories of Our Time: onbeing.org/programs/arlie-hoch…tories-of-our-time/
> Dark Matter Labs: rethinking organizing #BeyondTheRules - with Indy Johar and Annette Dhami: boundaryless.io/podcast/dark-matter-labs/
> Gov0 in Taiwan: g0v.asia/
> Rob Davies, Phasing out Russian oil: how UK consumers can help the war effort, 2022: www.theguardian.com/environment/202…-the-war-effort
> Better Reykjavik: citizens.is/portfolio_page/better_reykjavik/
> The Liège Food Belt: communitiesforfuture.org/get-inspired…elt-belgium/
> Why Blockchain should be plural: Cosmos and Inter-Blockchain Communication - with Ethan Buchman: boundaryless.io/podcast/ethan-buchman/
> Rebecca Solnit, 'A Paradise Built in Hell: The Extraordinary Communities That Arise in Disaster', 2010: www.amazon.com/Paradise-Built-He…es/dp/0143118072/

 

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: boundaryless.io/podcast-music

 

Recorded on 13 March 2022.

S3 Ep. 11 Michele Zanini – Firms as socially dense markets

S3 Ep. 11 Michele Zanini – Firms as socially dense markets

March 29, 2022

Michele Zanini is the co-author of the Wall Street Journal Bestseller, Humanocracy. He is the co-founder of the Management Lab, where together with Gary Hamel, he helps forward-thinking organizations become more resilient, innovative and engaging places to work. Michele was previously a senior consultant at McKinsey & Company and a policy analyst at the RAND Corporation. His work has been featured in The Economist, Harvard Business Review, the Financial Times, and the Wall Street Journal.

Michele joins the show to discuss how organizations have become so overburdened by bureaucracy and why new organizational models like those developed at Haier and Morningstar can be seen as socially dense markets. Tune in to this episode as we explore Industrial Age contracts, scalable freedom, the open source software movement and the continued need for management innovation.

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/michele-zanini-2/ 

 

 

Key highlights we discussed:

> Use case of overcoming bureaucracy and the authoritarian nature of organizations

> The benefits of socially dense markets

> Why freedom and control don’t have to be trade-offs

> The cultural reliance on hierarchical organizations

> The need to consider management model innovation for the 21st century 

 

 

To find out more about Michele’s work:

 

> Twitter: https://twitter.com/michelezanini   

> Website: https://www.humanocracy.com/ 

 

Other references and mentions:

 

> Simone Cicero, ‘Contracts and the Future of the Firm’, 2021: https://stories.platformdesigntoolkit.com/contracts-and-the-future-of-the-firm-3faf6ef27320 

> Ronald Coase, The Nature of the Firm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nature_of_the_Firm 

> Buurtzorg: https://www.buurtzorg.com/

> Apache foundation: https://www.apache.org/ 

 

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

 

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music

 

Recorded on 22 February 2022.

S3 Ep. 10 Ethan Buchman – Why Blockchain should be plural: Cosmos and Inter-Blockchain Communication

S3 Ep. 10 Ethan Buchman – Why Blockchain should be plural: Cosmos and Inter-Blockchain Communication

March 15, 2022

Ethan Buchman is the co-founder of the Cosmos network and serves as the CEO of Informal Systems. Informal Systems is a member-driven worker’s cooperative building software that enables trustworthy relationships between protocols and people to flourish. Ethan also serves as the President of the Interchain Foundation which funds and coordinates development of public goods in the Cosmos ecosystem.

 

Tune in to this discussion as we explore the current ‘moment’ blockchain is experiencing and the implications of having a community computer. We also discuss the personal computer revolution, polycentricity, and how Informal Systems is organized to enable their employees to self-organize.  

 

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/ethan-buchman/ 

 

Key highlights we discussed:

> Where blockchain fits in with the the history of computing

> The concept of embedded cooperativism

> The role of sovereignty and multi-chain interoperability 

> Standardization and commodification

> How individuals can participate in structural change

> How Informal Systems is structured through a high trust environment and ‘promises’

 

 

To find out more about Ethan’s work:

 

> Twitter: https://twitter.com/buchmanster 

> Website: https://ebuchman.github.io/     

 

Other references and mentions:

 

> Karl Polanyi, The Great Transformation, 1944: https://www.amazon.com/Great-Transformation-Political-Economic-Origins/dp/080705643X 

> Informal Systems: https://informal.systems/

> Informal Systems Twitter: https://twitter.com/informalinc 

> Informal Systems’ internal organisation: workflow.informal.systems   

> Cosmos: https://cosmos.network/ 

 

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

 

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music

 

Recorded on 16 February 2022.

S3 Ep. 9 Lucía Hernandez – Regenerative Platform Models: What do we mean?

S3 Ep. 9 Lucía Hernandez – Regenerative Platform Models: What do we mean?

March 1, 2022

Lucía is an expert in Platform Economy and New Emerging Trends. She has been working with organizations of all types in applying platform-ecosystems strategies. She has participated in research with global organizations and helped to design public policies related to short rental accommodation within the European Commission, IDB, and some local governments. 

 

In the last two years, Lucía has been studying the intersections between regenerative design and platform design in order to help public and private organizations in adopting a regenerative platform-ecosystem mindset.

 

In this conversation, we delve into the roots of regenerative thinking and why the movement is gaining momentum. It was fascinating to learn from Lucía’s expertise about what we can learn from nature, how regenerative thinking is a process – not a goal, redefining ‘abundance’, and some new organizations that are emerging in the platform economy.

 

 

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website:  https://boundaryless.io/podcast/lucia-hernandez/

 

 

Key highlights we discussed:

> What is regenerative thinking and where does it come from?

> Lucía’s six key principles of regenerative design

> The ultimate aim of the regenerative thinking movement

> The role of place-based economies

> The abundance versus scarcity mindset

> Community wealth and investing

 

 

To find out more about Lucía’s work:

 

> Twitter: https://twitter.com/luciahdez3   

> Website: https://luciahernandez.co/ 

> Lucía Hernandez, Regenerative Platform Design Principles: https://luciahernandez.co/2021/12/15/regenerative-platform-design-principles/ 

> Lucía Hernandez, Regenerative Platform Business Models- The next generation of platforms: https://luciahernandez.co/2021/04/26/regenerative-platform-business-models/ 

> TEDx talk on regenerative tourism (in Spanish): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qqoTXOr--U&ab_channel=TEDxTalks

 

Other references and mentions:

 

> Buckminster Fuller (1970). I Seem To Be A Verb.  https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/924075.I_Seem_To_Be_A_Verb 

> Showing the way with Web3 Marketplaces: Braintrust — with Gabriel Luna-Ostaseski: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/braintrust/

> The Restorative 20s: Why and How the 2020s Can Be the Decade of Regenerative Business, Podcast episode with Danielle Peltier Andrews, Director of Sustainability at General Mills: https://sustainablebrands.com/events/view/the-restorative-20s-why-and-how-the-2020s-can-be-the-decade-of-regenerative-business 

> Narrative decentralization and the future of progress — with Jason Crawford: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/jason-crawford/ 

> Organizing in Nested Systems: Re-regionalisation, Landscape and Global Solidarity — with Daniel Wahl: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/daniel-wahl/

> Marjorie Kelly: https://marjoriekelly.org/ 

> Trans-contextual Organizing: Shifting Perceptions — with Nora Bateson: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/nora-bateson/ 

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

 

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music

 

Recorded on 10 February 2022.

S3 Ep. 8 L. M. Sacasas – Building a convivial society: autonomy, tools, scale and capabilities

S3 Ep. 8 L. M. Sacasas – Building a convivial society: autonomy, tools, scale and capabilities

February 15, 2022

What does it mean to create convivial organisations and platforms? Today we explore the relationship between technology and society with L. M. Sacasas – and what we can learn from the philosopher Ivan Illich (1926-2002).  L. M. Sacasas is the associate director of the Christian Study Center of Gainesville, Florida and author of The Convivial Society, a newsletter about technology and society. Michael has written for The New Atlantis, The New Inquiry, Real Life Magazine, Mere Orthodoxy, Rhizomes, The American, and Second Nature Journal

 

Ivan Illich was a philosopher, Roman Catholic priest, and critic of the institutions of modern Western culture, who addressed contemporary practices in education, medicine, work, energy use, transportation, and economic development. 

 

In this episode, we explore what we mean by conviviality, having tools to empower – not de-skill – humans, the necessity of limits, re-envisioning the good life, and how Ivan Illich has such a big global following in today's society. 

 

 

A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/l-m-sacasas/

 

Key highlights we discussed:

> The meaning of conviviality and the influence of Ivan Illich on L. M. Sacasas’ work

> The accuracy of Ivan Illich’s predictions on mental health, education and work

> Examples of convivial tools 

> Identifying how to measure progress and where to aim better

> Why the real world needs to embrace virtual reality 

 

 

To find out more about Michael’s work:

 

> Twitter: https://twitter.com/LMSacasas  

>  The Convivial Society newsletter: https://theconvivialsociety.substack.com/ 

 

 

Other references and mentions:

 

> The Abolition of Institutions: On Ivan Illich with LM Sacasas and Nina Power: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast-episode/podcast//id1195362330?i=1000528978020

> Ivan Illich, Tools for Conviviality, 1973: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1842300113

> Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society, 1971: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deschooling_Society

> Thinking After Ivan Illich: https://thinkingafterivanillich.net/

> David Chalmers, Reality+, 2022: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393635805

> PD Smith, Reality+ by David J Chalmers review – are we living in a simulation?, https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jan/19/reality-by-david-j-chalmers-review-are-we-living-in-a-simulation

> Boundaryless Whitepaper, New Foundations of Platform-Ecosystem Thinking — Designing Products and Organizations for a changing world, 2020: https://platformdesigntoolkit.com/DOWNLOAD-NF

Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/

 

Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music

 

Recorded on 20 January 2022.

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