Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast is an ongoing exploration of the future of Platforms & Ecosystems. Here we explore new perspectives about how we organise at scale in a rapidly changing world. From Boundaryless SRL
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Tuesday Nov 28, 2023
Tuesday Nov 28, 2023
We discuss India's digital evolution with Arvind Gupta, exploring the country's unique approach to digital inclusion and decentralized networks. Arvind shares his experiences from academia to the key ideas behind Digital Public Infrastructure, emphasizing digital empowerment. Tune in, and discover how India's digital model is not only redefining technology as we know it, but also setting a precedent for the global landscape.
In this episode, we sit down with Arvind Gupta, Head and Co-Founder of the Digital India Foundation and deep dive into India’s recent bubbling digital story. As a key shaper of the India Stack, he shared his insights on the country’s unique approach to digital inclusion, and its unwavering commitment to serving the bottom of the pyramid
He reinstates India's position as the "data capital of the world" and the transformative power of data in the nation's journey and its crucial potential for empowerment.But what makes India's journey so unique? Well, India's approach has been about innovating building open networks and decentralized systems - something that we’re learning to call Digital Public Infrastructures and Arvind has been instrumental in shaping such a strategy.
Arvind Gupta has held several roles, ranging from being an Adjunct Professor at IIT-BHU, to serving as the CEO of MyGov, a platform championed by PM Modi for inclusive digital governance. His writings have been featured on platforms like the Harvard Business Review and the World Economic Forum, and his accolades, such as the Eisenhower Global Fellowship for Innovation, speak volumes about his commitment to the digital realm.
In this thought-provoking conversation, Arvind calls for a reimagining of the internet's original promise—to empower every individual and truly sparks a sense of deep hope.
Join us for this deep dive with Arvind Gupta, as we explore the intricacies of India's digital revolution, its global implications, and the future of technology.
Key Highlights
👉 India's digital stack - a deep dive into the UPI, EKYC, Aadhar etc.👉 How India shifted from traditional models to innovative platforms for societal empowerment.👉 How India is working towards decentralizing the internet through initiatives like ONDC, OCEN etc.👉 How the government utilizes the digital infrastructure investment to significant economic savings and market value creation.👉 What does it mean to be the data capital of the world?👉 Emphasis on collaborative and open consultations for policy and technology development.👉 The "Solve for India, Share with the World" approach towards solution building.👉 The future - Voice Tech, Ethics and Responsibilities of AI, Non Weaponization of Technology etc.
Topics /chapters
(00:00) Change the way we look at big tech and technology(00:45) Introduction of Arvind Gupta(02:12) Overview on Digital India, policy, infrastructure(13:03) Moving up the Value Chain(21:29) Breaking down the ONDC (24:22) Governance of Data and Citizen Participation(30:36) Capability Building and Go To Market(37:33) Private Sector Reactions to Open Networks(40:04) Policy Enforcement (41:16) Future of India’s play in global ecosystems(45:50) Other Mega Trends(46:44) Crypto Ledgers(47:51) Breadcrumbs and other suggestions
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/arvind-gupta/
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast
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#boundaryless #PDT #3EO #DecentralizedNetworks #ONDC #OCEN #UPI #OpenPlatforms
Tuesday Nov 14, 2023
Tuesday Nov 14, 2023
John Robb, an expert in networked societies and tribal dynamics, returns to the podcast after more than three years, with some thought-challenging discussions.
In this episode, Robb takes us through the inherent destructive nature of networked tribes and provides a unique perspective on our global civilizations trajectory.
He touches on dissent dynamics driven by social media, the danger in the concentration of power due to the transformative effect of AI, all while resonating its impact on business and organizational operations. This is a special episode, and Robb leaves no leaf unturned. Tune in.In today's open world, managing networked politics has become increasingly complex for brands, requiring proactive measures from the outset. John Robb, a renowned author and expert in the field of global security, networked societies, and tribal dynamics, helps us unlock this and other topics on our podcast.
Through popularizing concepts like "Global Guerrillas", where small, loosely connected groups use modern technology to disrupt traditional power structures; he has influenced several entrepreneurs and decision-makers with his thought-provoking insights and predictions.
He discusses the importance of cultivating a corporate culture rooted in civility, introduces profound perspectives on global civilization, and even urges us to consider where we want to be in 200 years, given the limitations posed by Earth’s energy and social entropy.
This podcast episode offers a deep exploration of such critical themes, providing valuable perspectives on the future of society and the influence of networks. Listen in, and join the conversation.
This episode also introduces a new format: #BeyondFrames, occasional podcast episodes where we’ll extend the view beyond product and org design, to look at the context of our work and organizations
Key Highlights
👉 Networked Tribes: how they affect markets and organizations👉 Importance of Early pattern recognition and intervention for managing complexity in organizations. 👉How can organizations adapt to tribes and maintain brand coherence?👉 How to establish corporate civility and neutrality 👉AI’s impact on concentration of power, wealthand feudalization of warfare👉The Permacrisis: how can we manage and prevent it at a societal level?👉What is deindividualization, and how does it affect your organization?
Topics /chapters
(00:00) Navigating Corporate Civility in the Age of Tribal Networks(01:01) John Robb Introduction(04:01) The Last 3 years for John Robb (07:23) Structure, Culture, and Strategy(10:23) Decentralized Tribes vs. Hierarchical Corporates(16:33) Future of Organizations and the Coherence of Brands(18:53) Positivity of Network Tribes(24:57) Entropy Growth and Organizations(32:11) De-individualization and Group Dynamics(35:44) Keeping Markets Free(44:52) The Next Cycle(58:43) Breadcrumbs and Suggestions(01:03:06) Closing
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://www.boundaryless.io/podcast/john-robb2/
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/boundaryless_Website: https://boundaryless.io/contactsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boundaryless-pdt-3eo
MusicMusic from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music
#boundaryless #PDT #3EO #Networks #Politics #Complexity
Tuesday Oct 31, 2023
Tuesday Oct 31, 2023
We are elated to host Teresa Torres, the renowned product discovery coach behind Product Talk, on our podcast. Drawing from her vast experience, from her collaborations with industry giants like Spotify and Tesco, but also with small, nimble startup teams we discuss about implementing continuous discovery inside organizations, across teams, driven by business outcomes. Together, we explore the intricacies, challenges, and opportunities of coordinating in complex product landscapes and what it means for organizations navigating these rough waters. Teresa's insights are simple, yet profound and that makes this episode a must listen!
As the mind behind Product Talk, there's arguably a handful who understand the intricacies of continuous discovery better than Teresa Torres does. Her straightforward style and work has set benchmarks in the industry of product design and development.
In our conversation, we venture beyond the usual. We discuss the science of maintaining coherence in a portfolio of products, what it means to ideate within the constraints of an organization, and what are some artifacts and visualization tools that can help product development. She also shares her thoughts on the delicate balance of power, as the scales tip in the age of personal technology, highlighting what GenAI and NoCode could mean for the future of the product.
With her foundational education from Stanford University and Northwestern University, combined with her hands-on experience, Teresa brings a unique blend of academic rigor and practical insights to the table.
Give this episode a listen, and you are sure to walk away with points to ponder.
Key Highlights
👉 Relationship between continuous discovery, and organizational structure, team structures, product design, product portfolios, scaling etc.
👉 How can cross-functional product team be empowered by the product team
👉 Why every product needs a has a business outcome, and a revenue model formula
👉 Balancing between what creates value for customers and the business
👉 How do you achieve coherence and achieve coherence in complexity, when there is a portfolio of products?
👉 How can tools be used to impose enabling constraints?
👉 Shifting power to the customer with GenAI and personal technology
Topics /chapters
(00:00) Revenue Model Formula: A Blueprint for Profitable Products
(00:43) Teresa Torres's Introduction
(03:08) Scaling and Continuous Discovery
(07:31) Accountability, P&L, and Product Centric Organizations
(09:57) Managing coherence in portfolio of products
(16:27) Coordinating in Complexity
(19:26) Artifacts and Visualizations
(23:01) Ideation within constraints
(29:24) Product Expansions in startups
(37:41) Shift of Power from Product Teams to the Consumer // Personal Technology
(41:51) Navigating customer focus in a world of GenAI
(45:25) Breadcrumbs and Suggestions
(48:06) Closing Notes
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/teresa-torres
Recorded on 2nd October 2023.
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast
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Tuesday Oct 17, 2023
Tuesday Oct 17, 2023
In this episode, we explore what a product centric organization looks like, with our guest Craig Strong. Sharing his experience from being a Global Practice Leader at AWS (Amazon Web Services), a seasoned Chief Technology & Product Officer, he helps us dive deeper into the nuances of adopting organizational designs, cultures, and practices that cater to product-customer centricity.
A true product operating model specialist, he has helped countless startups and enterprises to modernize and evolve to become more customer-centric. From bio-mimicry to hands-on experience, learn what inspires him everyday, to design some of the most robust and adopted organization structures in the world. This podcast is just not one to miss!
In this insightful episode, Craig Strong, co-author of The Lean Product Lifecycle, explores the future of product-centric organizations. With over 18 years in the tech industry, Craig has worked with startups, SMEs, and global enterprises, guiding them through growth and transformation.
Craig shares profound insights on this podcast, emphasizing the importance of life cycles in product development and the dangers of prescribing defined frameworks. We dive into the significance of asking timely questions, what questions to ask, and the necessity of flexible frameworks that cater to the emergent needs of complex organizations. He touches upon his infamous concept of viewing taxonomies and ontologies as products, and so much more.
As a Forbes Technology Council member and co-author of “The Lean Product Lifecycle”, Craig provides a blend of theoretical and practical insights on this podcast. This episode is a must-listen for those seeking clarity and inspiration in product operations and organizational design. Tune in for a highly engaging discussion with Craig Strong!
Key Highlights
👉 Importance of timely contextualization, innovation, and autonomy in ideas.
👉 Relevance of incremental governance
👉 Removal of “Rigidity of Frameworks”
👉 Creating a balance between heuristics and cultural tenets of an organization
👉 Complete break-down of product taxonomies - its necessity, importance, design structure etc.
👉 How to build collective intelligence in organizations
👉 How to use visualization tools for imagining and executing dynamic organization design
Topics /chapters
(00:00) Craig Strong’s quote
(00:57) Introducing Craig Strong
(07:12) Key Tenets and Artifacts of Product Centric Organizations
(12:31) Incremental Governance
(15:51) All about Product Taxonomies
(19:17) Patterns in Taxonomies
(21:06) Dynamism and Complexity in Organizations
(23:17) Scalability of Taxonomy
(26:55) Alternatives to P&L in Product Development Cycle
(29:11) Objectivity and Removing Bias in Development
(32:18) Innovation Theatre and Operationalizing Product Innovation
(36:20) Skin in the Game
(38:54) Hierarchy of Taxonomies
(43:03) Building a Taxonomy and Ontology that is Convenient
(50:49) Breadcrumbs and Suggestions by Craig
(53:38) Closing Points
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/craig-strong
Recorded on 18th September 2023.
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Tuesday Oct 03, 2023
Tuesday Oct 03, 2023
In our first episode this season, we dive into the world of open platforms and the future of organizing. With his thought-provoking presentation of “Gardening Platforms”, our guest Alex Komoroske, helps create a shift in mindset towards a more achievable and sustainable approach in creating impactful technology solutions. We explore his key learnings from leading products at Google Chrome, and how he continues to implement these in his own journey today. Talking on questions of morality, control, and designing for the nefarious users, there’s so much Alex offers in this podcast, and we hope you take from it, as much as we did.
Alex Komoroske, is truly one to get inspired by when we think of the potential that powerful technology solutions can create. For 13 years, he worked with Google, building some of the most cherished products that came from the organization. Heading product for a company that affects billions of lives is no easy feat, and Alex did just that for Google Chrome. He took his vast ocean of knowledge, and for the last two years has helped shape Stripe, as their Head of Strategy. In his flip-book style presentation, aptly titled, “Gardening Platforms”, he discusses the fundamental emergent power dynamics of platforms, how to evolve an existing platform to continuously improve it, and how to create a new platform from scratch. This got us truly hooked, and we are glad that Alex joined us to discuss this, and many more mind-tinkering concepts in our podcast. We touch upon the inherently complex and evolutionary nature of platforms,the role of composability and modularity, and what it means to be sensitive to socio-technical implications of your solutions.
Get ready to be inspired by his high-impact journey, brutal honesty, and some remarkable recommendations of books and concepts that have shaped his thoughts and processes.
Key Highlights
👉 Platforms can be imagined as a swarm of energy, between multiple entities interacting with one another.
👉 Why you don’t always need a big-bang for product launches, and oftentimes self-accumulating users are what’s best for the platform’s success.
👉 Why a gardener mindset, rather than a builder mindset, is poised to reward a product more success.
👉 How organizations can prepare and design for open platforms that are resilient and expansive, but chaotic and hard to control.
Topics /chapters
(00:00) Quote by Alex Komoroske
(00:39) Simone welcomes audience
(01:26) Alex Introduction
(04:28) Platforms as Complex Adaptive Systems and Gardening Platforms
(09:08) “Coherence” an attribute for platform development in Open vs. Closed Platforms
(12:22) Rebound from Centralized Platforms
(16:36) Translating chaotic and complex ecosystems into actionable initiatives in organizations
(29:04) Trust, Organizational Accountability, and Micro enterprises
(39:18) Moral implications of building platforms and open source movements
(49:08) Design for Participation
(53:42) Power of Decision Makers in influencing platform design
(01:00:09) Breadcrumbs (Suggested content from Alex)
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/alex-komoroske
Recorded on 30th September 2023.
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
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Wednesday Sep 27, 2023
Wednesday Sep 27, 2023
We’re back at the Boundaryless Conversations Podcast, with an all new Season No. 5.
Join us, as we bridge the worlds of technology, geopolitics, culture, and policymaking. We take a dive deep into the fabric of tomorrow's world, sharing inspiring stories from innovative organizations leading the way in product and platform development. Learn how to build resilient, adaptable entities that thrive amidst change. Stay informed, break free from echo chambers, and become a change-maker in your organization.
Subscribe to our podcasts on your favorite podcasting platforms, and help us shape a richer, more democratic dialogue about the future of organizing.
Explore our vision at boundaryless.io as we bring to you - Platform and Ecosystems, from the edge to the core.
For more information: https://boundaryless.io.
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Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/
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Thursday Jul 13, 2023
Thursday Jul 13, 2023
In this season wrap up, podcast hosts Simone Cicero and Stina Heikkilä talk about the new research compass of Boundaryless and ruminate on some of the gems of the season.Simone and Stina also share some highlights from the long list of episodes of the Boundaryless Conversations podcast — almost 90 and counting! — and provide some pointers for future research. It’s worth catching up with the ideas in the recent blog A Research Compass: Platform-Ecosystem Thinking in 2023 when listening to the wrap up.
Some of the topics that stood out forming the substance of the new compass include:
AI and other technological enablers
A new product management framing
Building Ecosystemically
Software-powered Organizational Evolutions
A new Organizational Focus on Resilience
The wrap up provides a good appetizer for the upcoming season, which will have some novelties and more co-hosts in store. A special shout-out to Stina who won’t be co-hosting the next season of the podcast. It’s been a great ride and we’re sure that she’ll be back co-hosting more episodes in the future!
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https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast
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Tuesday Jul 11, 2023
Tuesday Jul 11, 2023
In this season’s final episode, we talk to Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky about how our old ideas of what's normal are disappearing. There is a need to bridge the gap between old and emerging systems, encouraging exploration and experimentation to unlock our Ecosystemic Future.
Bill Fischer has spent his entire career involved in innovation, from being a practicing development engineer in industry and government; to being an academic researcher, teacher and writer; to being involved in several startups. He is presently a Senior Lecturer at the Sloan School of Management, at MIT, and an Emeritus Professor of Innovation Management at IMD, in Lausanne, Switzerland.Lisa Gansky is a social provocateur, serial entrepreneur, angel investor, advisor, international keynote speaker and author of the bestselling book, “The Mesh: Why the Future of Business is Sharing”. Her work on trust, the sharing economy & innovation has been central in rethinking 21st century governance, business models & community dynamics.
The challenges organizations are facing in adapting to rapid change show how traditional organizational structures are no longer working. To adapt to the changing landscape, a mix between AI, Web3 technologies and new ways to governance can allow for flexible and modular ways of organizing.
New promises emerge through the overlap between organizations and software that can unlock new ecosystem potential where different players and customers come together, focusing on local relationships and embracing transience for more innovative solutions.
Beyond all, it’s important to keep up with optionality and dynamism, both key to the nature of Ecosystemic thinking: co-creation and increasing diversity and variance are going to be key in the markets of the future.
These elements provide the backdrop for this Situational Update on our Ecosystemic Future.
Key Highlights
👉 The “not yet” is moving faster than the speed at which organizations can adapt
👉 Un-centralizing for the future: creating Smaller units with more autonomy
👉 Challenges ahead: technology, jobs, and rethinking traditional career paths
👉 The old model of “define, refine and scale” is being disrupted by something that's more turbulent and community oriented.
👉 The S-curve of technology is getting shorter and the narrative behind it different
👉 Companies need T shaped individuals to serve hubs of people within ecosystems
👉 Everything is 100% temporal, but our legal systems, our laws, our tax codes, our everything, our educational systems can't keep up with that model.
Topics /chapters
(00:00) Dynamic Models and Local Engagement: Nature's Inspiration for Future Relationships
(01:24) Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky introduction
(02:58) Adapting Products, Services, and Work in an Uncertain World
(14:27) Redefining Careers: From Hierarchy to Portfolio of Projects
(23:31) Exploring the Potential of Web3 Governance and Programmable Protocols
(39:46) The Path to Coherence: Navigating the Convergence and Variance in Future Markets
(51:05) Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky’s breadcrumbs
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/lisa-gansky-and-bill-fischer
Recorded on April 13th 2023.
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
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Music
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