Episodes
Tuesday Jun 27, 2023
Tuesday Jun 27, 2023
In this episode we dive into the world of smart contracts and their remarkable impact on organizational design. Our guest Justice Conder provides a thought-provoking introduction to what he calls the third law of nature of smart contracts. We explore the transformative journey from traditional corporations to the realm of Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs) keeping a non ideological mindset and examining the challenges of bridging the gap between the two paradigms.
Justice Conder does DAO Ecosystem Development at Polygon Labs. Before this he was a full-stack developer and Agile practitioner for over ten years and entered the world of DAOs through BanklessDAO, where he contributed as a governance solution engineer.With Justice we explore the disconnect between DAOs and traditional organizations, investigating how smart contracts - as a conceptual evolution of DevOps - could play a pivotal role in driving organizational transformation. We also discuss how pioneering transformations such as the one with Haier’s management model, Rendanheyi, has a symbiotic relationship with the on-chain revolution, offering insights into the future of organizational design and management.
Get ready to be inspired by the immense potential of Web3 capabilities in product development, and discover how these capabilities can be harnessed to unleash innovation, foster user engagement, and shape the future of products and organizations.
Key Highlights
👉 Smart Contracts and the Third Law of Nature
👉 DAOs are ideologically framed: a movement for more equitable organizations
👉 DACs (corporations) rather than DAOs (organizations) may be the space where most of the promises of smart organization lies
👉 DAOs can magnify rather than solve the tragedy of the commons if leadership is missing
👉 Progressive decentralization is better than presumptive
👉 To be on top of organizational transformation, you need to look far ahead of the current state
Topics /chapters
(00:00) Smart Contracts: The Unbreakable Third Law of Nature
(00:55) Justin introduction
(01:51) from the traditional world into the DAO world
(04:40) Bridging the Gap: Exploring the Disconnect Between DAOs and Traditional Organizations
(18:13) The Role of DevOps, Smart Contracts and DAOs in Organizational Transformation
(27:23) Rendanheyi and the On-Chain Revolution: the Future of Organizational Management
(41:47) Unleashing the Potential: Harnessing Web3 Capabilities for Product Development
(54:43) Justice Conder's breadcrumbs
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/justice-conder
Recorded on June 2nd 2023.
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Music
Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
S04 Ep. 18 Design in the 2020s: More Agency, Less Control with Christian Bason
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Join us in our latest podcast episode as we delve into the world of design with Dr. Christian Bason, CEO of the Danish Design Center. We explore the crucial role of how we think - the “thinking” part of design thinking - in addressing global challenges.
Drawing from one of his latest books "Expand: Stretching the Future By Design", co-authored with Jens Martin Skibsted, Christian introduces the concept of six expansions: time, proximity, life, value, dimensions, and sectors. These expansions encourage designers to break free from traditional boundaries and tackle complex issues like climate change, pandemics, and digitization. We also discuss the dynamic nature of design modes and methods, highlighting the importance of agency and adaptability in diverse contexts.
Dr. Christian Bason brings his expertise in innovation, design, policy and leadership to enrich our conversation. Before becoming CEO of the Danish Design Center, Christian gathered a wealth of experience leading organizations such as MindLab, the Danish government’s innovation team, and Ramboll Management Consulting. He has published in amongst other Harvard Business Review and Stanford Social Innovation Review and has taught executives at Oxford Saïd Business School, Henley MBA, the European School of Administration and Copenhagen Business School.
With Christian, we dive deep into the ethical considerations surrounding technological innovation and the responsibilities of designers and developers in the digital space. Our conversation examines the impact of technology on society and emphasizes the need for governance mechanisms to keep up with rapid advancements.
The podcast further explores the role of designers as decision-makers and their responsibility at various scales. We look into the transformative power of unlocking individual creativity and cultivating innovative cultures within organizations.
Lastly, we confront the current state of the world and examine the rise of autocracies and surveillance societies, questioning why top-down control has become such a prevailing force. Christian proposes that we have agency to create more sustainable and human-centered organizational forms that can effectively navigate complexity and build alternative futures.
Join us for this captivating podcast episode as we navigate the future of design, highlighting the transformative power of agency, and embrace a world where creativity and collaboration pave the way for a better tomorrow.
Key Highlights
👉 We need to expand our thinking about the future in six areas: time, proximity, life, value, dimensions, sectors.
👉 By adopting a designer's mindset, we should embrace agency to shape our future.
👉 Human imagination and ideas around what is good need to dominate no matter what technology we have at our disposal.
👉 Designers in the digital space have incredible power today because of their ability to scale.
👉 Many organizations are stuck in 19th or 20th century ways of thinking.
👉 Technologies allowing for large-scale distributed coordination exist, but many corporates prefer to exert top-down control.
👉 To enable technology as a catalyst for leadership, we must design organizations that prioritize our beliefs about people rather than solely focusing on technology.
👉 Groups of people together deciding to make a change is the only thing that's ever changed the world.
Topics /chapters
(00:00) Do organization layers inevitably have to grow as an organization expands?
(01:01) Christian Bason’s introduction
(02:08) Expand: Stretching the Future By Design - Exploring the Boundaries of Design Thinking
(14:33) Human Agency in the Age of Technological Advancement
(23:37) The Need for a Designer’s Perspective in Technology and Innovation
(32:41) Balancing Technological Awareness and Leadership in the Digital Age
(42:42) Imagining a Better Future: The Crisis of Imagination and Design
(49:51) Christian Bason's breadcrumbs
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/christian-bason
Recorded on May 2nd 2023.
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Music
Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: blss.io/Podcast-Music
Tuesday May 30, 2023
S04 Ep. 17 Nafeez Ahmed - Organizing for a Decade of Global Phase-Shift
Tuesday May 30, 2023
Tuesday May 30, 2023
Dr. Nafeez Ahmed joins the show to share his insights about the disruptive nature of technological progress and how it impacts society. He brings our attention to how the transformation of five fundamental production sectors - energy, transport, food, information, and materials - urges organizations to prepare for a decade of global phase shift.
In this episode, Dr Nafeez Ahmed helps us gain a better understanding of how exponential technological advancements and economic factors are reshaping our civilization, leading us towards a more decentralized organizing system in a pivotal decade.
Nafeez is a systems theorist with over 20 years experience, and works as change strategy consultant and investigative journalist. He is the Creator of the Age of Transformation newsletter where he writes about systems thinking for what he calls 'the global phase shift'. He is Director of the Futures Lab at United Communications Ltd where he leads on system transformation advisory services for governments, businesses and charities. Nafeez is also a Distinguished Fellow at the Schumacher Institute for Sustainable Systems and a Commissioner at the Club of Rome's Transformational Economics Commission.
In this episode, we uncover the challenges faced by established industries in light of the rise of new technologies. With Nafeez, we explore strategic approaches to successfully navigate this phase shift, including basing decisions on the best available empirical evidence and data, and the need for new ways of collaborating in the face of increasing convergence across different sectors under transformation. Nafeez shares his insights about the economic implications of AI and the exciting possibilities of reimagining our future organizing system to fit new systems of production.
Get ready to delve into the next decade’s phase shift and discover the significance of strategic pivoting in response!
Key highlights
👉 The need for a new organizational system to cope with technological disruptions and convergence in key sectors: energy, transport, food, information, and materials
👉 The importance of active government involvement in rethinking strategies for the global phase shift, from re-evaluating industry investments and supporting workers’ transition to new sectors, to eliminating subsidies and implementing carbon tax.
👉 Technological advancements in AI and renewable energy will cause us to reconsider our conventional organizing system, with decreased reliance on traditional labor and increased opportunities for participation through decentralized production networks.
👉 To navigate the changing landscape and seize the opportunities presented by technological advancements, decision-making based on the science and data available, and the adoption of new ways of collaboration across sectors, are essential.
Topics / Chapters
(00:00) Nafeez Ahmed quote
(00:54) Nafeez Ahmed introduction
(02:26) Rethink Humanity: The Unprecedented Disruptions Shaping Our Future
(20:56) From Energy to AI: Unthinkable Transformations and Strategic Responses
(37:32) Navigating the Emergence of Networked and Decentralized Systems
(50:37) Building a New Civilization: Seizing the Unprecedented Opportunities of Clean Energy and AI
(59:24) Nafeez Ahmed's breadcrumbs
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/nafeez-ahmed
Recorded on April 28th 2023.
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
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Music
Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: blss.io/Podcast-Music
Tuesday May 16, 2023
Tuesday May 16, 2023
Špela Prijon and Sascha Kellert join us to share the latest news from Ownco - a platform that combines the best aspects of cooperatives, DAOs, and traditional startups to make shared ownership and the ownership economy more fluid and accessible.
Ownco’s approach to distributing ownership moves along four key dimensions - Upsides, Status, Influence, Redemption - and is an approach born through testing hypotheses and assessing the actual results produced by early adopters. For example, through Ownco’s credit system companies can issue ownership credits that can be backed - through a legal bridge - with exit proceeds, providing ownership-backed incentives for contributors.
Ownco believes that achieving ownership sharing can be done with existing legal contracts, while at the same time the potential impacts of Web 3 may be important for the long term.
Špela Prijon and Sascha Kellert are the co-founders with Harry Wilson (not on this podcast) of Ownco.Špela Prijon has been active with startups for a long time, as a founder and team member. Most recently Špel awas Head of CX at Ledgy, leading implementation of all types of equity plans for 100s of startups from seed to IPO stage, in jurisdictions all over the world and it was with such an intimate knowledge of the processes of sharing ownership.Sascha Kellert is a serial-entrepreneur who studied Systems Theory at Bayes Business School in London with a thesis exploring how to design viable businesses using patterns and blueprints from nature. Over the last decade he has been developing practices and tools for the alternative ownership economy, while building his last two VC-funded SaaS/platform startups.
In this episode, we delve into several practical use cases, talk through regulatory and governance issues, and explore Ownco’s vision of boundaryless, networked organizations, with micro-teams connected through smart contracts and programmable ownership sharing.
Enjoy this both practical and inspiring conversation with two of the passionate founders of Ownco. Key Highlights
👉 There are more ways to promote co-ownership than developing full-fledged DAOs
👉 The future is in networks of micro-companies
👉 Ownco’s four dimensions of co-ownership: Upsides, Status, Influence, Redemption.
👉 How trust is essential in the time between issuing and fulfilling a contract
👉 Web3 as enabling inter-company collaboration
👉 The future of Ownco as an embedded capability rather than a single product
👉 Ownco’s customer journey starts by asking “What is the progressive decentralization path that they can embark on?”
Topics /chapters
(00:00) Building Loyalty in Business Communities
(01:00) Špela Prijon and Sascha Kellert introduction
(02:35) Ownco: Making Equity More Powerful and Leveling the Playing Field
(05:31) The Ownership Economy and the “credits” model
(15:55) Legal Bridges: Sharing Ownership Without Complexities
(21:31) The Growing Demand for Shared Ownership: Ownco's Unique Approach
(25:55) Building Boundaryless Organizations
(34:58) Distributing power and ownership within an organization
(39:18) Spela Prijon and Sascha Kellert breadcrumbs
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/ownco
Recorded on April 28th 2023.
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
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Music
Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music
Tuesday May 02, 2023
Tuesday May 02, 2023
In this new episode of the Boundaryless Conversation Podcast, Mark van Rijmenam examines the hype cycle surrounding AI and the perceived decline of interest in the Metaverse. He argues that these emerging technologies are not mutually exclusive and that the Metaverse still has significant potential for development with the application of AI.
Dr Mark van Rijmenam is an international keynote speaker, author and entrepreneur. He is a leading future tech strategist who thinks about how technology changes organizations, society and the metaverse. Globally recognised speaker and expert on disruptive innovation and how we can benefit from emerging technologies such as big data, blockchain, AI and VR/AR, Mark wrote “Step into the Metaverse: How the Immersive Internet Will Unlock a Trillion-Dollar Social Economy”, detailing what the open metaverse is and how organizations and consumers can benefit from the immersive internet.
Mark stresses the importance for organizations to develop digital capabilities (which he refers to as “DNA”), to stay ahead of technology trends and avoid getting caught up in hype cycles. We also discuss the challenge of developing responsible and ethical technology, with suggestions for oversight boards and regulatory requirements to ensure alignment with ethical values.
Key highlights
👉 Being part of communities online and offline is essential to discovering and understanding new technologies.
👉 Convergence is important to understanding how new technologies will combine with existing trends.
👉 The pattern of “hype and crash” for emerging technologies has occurred repeatedly in the past.
👉 Organizations need to develop digital capabilities to understand and stay ahead of emerging technology trends today.
👉 The lines between the digital world and the physical world are blurring, with implications for both work and private life.
👉 Reading about new technologies is not enough - practical application and critical thinking are necessary to truly understand them.
👉 Organizations, startups, regulators, and consumers must work together to educate themselves on the importance of an open Metaverse in a digital society.
Topics (chapters):
(00:00) Why Your Organization Needs to Start Preparing Today for the Future.
(00:52) Mark van Rijmenam introduction
(02:22) Assessing New Technology: Communities, Prototyping, and Convergence
(11:08) The Metaverse vs. AI: Debunking the Hype Cycle
(15:17) Building Digital Capabilities for Organizations to Stay Ahead of Technology Trends
(23:59) The Challenge of Instilling Ethics in Technology Development
(29:54) The transformative impact of the Metaverse, Generative AI, and IT convergence on organizational models, business models, and social agreements
(40:08) The Importance of an Open Metaverse for Digital Society
(43:56) The Importance of Digital Literacy: Learning to Fly in the Digital World
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/mark-van-rijmenam
Recorded on 13 March 2023.
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
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Music
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Tuesday Apr 18, 2023
S04 Ep. 14. Barry O’Reilly Software architecture for a rapidly changing world
Tuesday Apr 18, 2023
Tuesday Apr 18, 2023
Most software architects represent the environment in a very static way, and from that static representation, produce static software. As a result, the software structure they create is like a picture of a picture…used to describe what is actually a movie. This problem, rooted in a mechanistic worldview, is where Barry O'Reilly’s Residuality Theory was born.
Residuality Theory - in very few words - is a method of designing software architectures inspired by how the most talented architects do it: i.e. starting from the stress conditions that the system could eventually face as it operates.
Barry O'Reilly is a software architect with 25 years of experience in the IT industry. He has held leading roles at global software companies and has spent many years educating architects and he is currently pursuing a PhD in Complexity Science and Software Engineering at The Open University.
Residuality theory looks at the world not as a bunch of static things or still pictures, but as a constantly moving set of processes which we can't really see and grasp. It requires designers to move away from a static view of the system: by letting the architecture design be inspired by its “stressors”, O'Reilly thinks that not only can we design more resilient systems but also more efficient ones.
In this episode Barry also describes the philosophical background behind the theory and why Residuality can be a viable approach to designing organizations too.
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/barry-oreilly
Key highlights
👉Static representation of reality as a practice of software architecture is embedded in Western philosophy and worldview
👉Software engineers should start asking themselves: “What is the underlying philosophy behind what I do and the frameworks that I use?”
👉Residuality is a way to look at the world as a constantly shifting, moving set of processes that we can't really see and grasp
👉The residue is what remains from the system after it breaks down: it's the leftover of the system. And those leftovers will define the future of the software system
👉Criticality as an indication of the system’s ability to function across a wide range of attractors, which we may or may not even know about
👉It is known that software performing well in its environment is modular, but how to make structured decisions around such modularity remains unknown
👉The impossibility to separate organizational design from software architecture
Topics (chapters):
(00:00) Barry’s quote
(00:59) Introduction
(02:12) What residuality theory is
(12:59) Residuality: philosophical background.
(18:24) Residuality: from software to organizations.
(27:01) Residuality and micro services: is a match possible?
(36:13) Is residuality fit for the society we’re living in, or is it a next generation’s thing
(43:03) How to (easily) adopt a residuality approach
(48:48) Barry’s breadcrumbs.
To find out more about Barry’s work:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/technologytulip
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barry-o-reilly-b924657
Website: https://www.blacktulip.se
Other references and mentions:
Nassim Nicholas Taleb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nassim_Nicholas_Taleb
Antifragile (book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifragile_(book)
NK model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NK_model
Transcendental idealism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_idealism
Post-structuralism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-structuralism
The Biological Reality of Organizing - with Alicia Juarrero https://www.boundaryless.io/podcast/alicia-juarrero
Bezos’ famous API mandate https://nordicapis.com/the-bezos-api-mandate-amazons-manifesto-for-externalization/
Characteristics of decision-making during coding https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303515570_Characteristics_of_decision-making_during_coding
Promise Theory. Principles and Applications http://markburgess.org/promises.html
Cynefin framework https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynefin_framework
Building Scalable Organizations that can Deal with Uncertainty — with Dave Snowden https://www.boundaryless.io/podcast/dave-snowden/
Barry’s suggested breadcrumbs (things listeners should check out):
Residuality Theory by Barry O’Reilly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96IqczEd88A
Ralph D. Stacey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_D._Stacey
Complexity and Organizational Reality Uncertainty and the Need to Rethink Management after the Collapse of Investment Capitalism https://www.routledge.com/Complexity-and-Organizational-Reality-Uncertainty-and-the-Need-to-Rethink/Stacey/p/book/9780415556477
The Reflective Practitioner https://rauterberg.employee.id.tue.nl/lecturenotes/DDM110%20CAS/Schoen-1983%20Reflective%20Practitioner.pdf
Recorded on 22 February 2023.
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
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Music
Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music
Tuesday Apr 04, 2023
Tuesday Apr 04, 2023
In this podcast, we dive into the shift towards a more decentralized and organic approach to city planning with Joni Baboci, an architect, planner, and urban enthusiast. We discuss how the modernist paradigm of deconstructing everything into individual parts and putting them back together linearly is becoming less relevant. Instead, we see a shift towards a more organic, bottom-up approach that looks at the city as a complex and multi-layered system.
Joni Baboci is the founder of Layer, a spatial orchestration platform that empowers teams to govern through tactics and patterns while leveraging machine learning and artificial intelligence. He has previously served as the General Director of Planning and Urban Development for the City of Tirana and the director of Atelier Albania, a structure of the Albanian government dealing with national and regional strategic planning. Joni has executed planning, design & development projects at different scales at the national, regional and local levels.
Joni shares his insights on how technological advancements such as AI and blockchain are enabling bottom-up processes in planning and thinking about cities. We also delve into the challenges of making these ideas practical and building a process of making them a reality. Joni highlights the importance of reinventing physical production through local value loops, and incentivizing the interconnection between urban and rural scapes.
We also discuss how DAOs and blockchain technology can improve local governance and participation, and how cities can invest in citizen-based entrepreneurship that let them decide how to perform a job or access a service rather than relying on a top-down approach.
Join us as we explore the potential of a more decentralized and organic approach to city planning with Joni Baboci.
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/joni-baboci
Key highlights
👉 The static, modernist way of thinking and planning cities is changing.
👉 Looking at cities through a “pattern language”: from communities to subcultures to regions.
👉 Bureaucracy can help to make sure things do not move too fast.
👉 The physical city won’t be replaced by a virtual city or a network state any time soon.
👉 New technologies make it possible to scale governance both on a technical and geographical level.
👉 Communities should be able to make small bets on things that matter to them
Topics (chapters):
(00:00) Joni Baboci quote
(00:47) Joni Baboci introduction
(02:13) A Paradigm Shift Towards Humility in Organizing Cities and Space
(05:56) The Shift Towards Decentralized and Organic City Planning
(10:57) The Role of Cities in the Modern World: Cities as Labor Markets and More
(18:15) Exploring the Pros and Cons of Network Cities: Coexisting with Physical Cities
(23:13) The Future of Cities and the Interconnection between Urban and Rural Landscapes
(30:55) Using DAOs and Blockchain to Improve Local Governance and Participation
(40:41) City and Citizen Entrepreneurship for Bottom-up Development
(47:15) Joni Baboci's breadcrumbs
To find out more about Joni’s work:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dbaboci
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonibaboci
Website: https://joni.baboci.net
Other references and mentions:
Layer: https://getlayer.xyz
Joni’s newsletter: https://thinkthinkthink.substack.com
METABOLISM OF ALBANIA | FABRICations: https://www.fabrications.nl/portfolio-item/metabolismofalbania-2
The Deeper Order of Cities: https://thesideview.co/journal/the-deeper-order-of-cities
Eyes on the Street: The Life of Jane Jacobs: https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Street-Life-Jane-Jacobs/dp/0345803337
Remote bureaucracy by Dror Poleg: https://www.drorpoleg.com/remote-bureaucracy and https://medium.com/block-science/disambiguating-autonomy-ca84ac87a0bf
Center for International Development | Harvard Kennedy School - https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/cid
The Atlas of Economic Complexity - https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu
Overthrowing The Network State: Untangling Balaji's Helical Theory of History The Blockchain Socialist: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/overthrowing-the-network-state-untangling-balajis/id1501607045
Metromontagna. Un progetto per riabitare l’Italia - a cura di Filippo Barbera e Antonio De Rossi https://www.donzelli.it/libro/9788855221948
Disambiguating Autonomy. Ceding Control in favor of Coordination… | by BlockScience https://medium.com/block-science/disambiguating-autonomy-ca84ac87a0bf
Designing for children should be plan A — so why aren’t we doing it? | by Joni Baboci: https://medium.com/@dbaboci/designing-for-children-should-be-plan-a-so-why-arent-we-doing-it-71c7d9560b76
Joni’s suggested breadcrumbs (things listeners should check out):
Seeing Like a State by James C. Scott : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State
A Pattern Language by Christopher Alexander: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Pattern_Language
Order Without Design: How Markets Shape Cities by Alain Bertaud: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262038768/order-without-design
A Crude Look at the Whole by John Miller: https://www.amazon.com/Crude-Look-Whole-Science-Business/dp/0465055699
Worlds Hidden in Plain Sight by David Krakauer: https://www.amazon.com/Worlds-Hidden-Plain-Sight-Complexity/dp/1947864157
Scale by Geoffrey West: https://www.amazon.com/Scale-Universal-Growth-Organisms-Companies/dp/014311090X
Recorded on 17 February 2023.
Get in touch with Boundaryless:
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Music
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Tuesday Mar 21, 2023
Tuesday Mar 21, 2023
Alberto Brandolini joins the podcast as a sparring partner in our exploration of one of the most “burning” issues in our research: the intrinsic links between language, software and organizational design. We explore the role of domain-driven design and, more generally, the role of visualization and context mapping in the process that we call "ontological convergence" i. e. how we agree on standards, converge on using common models and build common tools, protocols and infrastructures.
Alberto, EventStorming creator, Domain-Driven Design (DDD) legend and unconventional entrepreneur, is also famous for the Bullshit Asymmetry Principle aka Brandolini’s law. He proudly runs Avanscoperta, a hub for inventing, promoting, and spreading new ideas around software development.
Alberto is also a frequent speaker at conferences and events, and an international trainer with more than ten years of experience.
During the chat we explore the ways software drives the adoption of common models and languages, and how the boundaries between technology and business, between one team and another, and even between organizations themselves, are blurring.
Alberto observes that, the more you go distributed, the more having clean, well visualized, “bounded contexts” really becomes a key factor in effectiveness and success for organizations.
Defining components and modules reduces the need to collectively agree about stuff: an heavily underestimated cost of organizing.
Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/alberto-brandolini
Key highlights
👉 How ubiquitous can language be
👉 The best way to speed up reaching agreement? Visualizing instead of talking.
👉 Most no-code and low-code approaches are designed around a paradigm that is antithetic to domain-driven design.
👉 Domain-driven design suggests to be aware of the cost of your architectural decisions and the evolutions of these forces over time
👉 When the quality of a component makes it an obvious choice, it’s a good way to create standards
👉 The hardest part for remote-first organizations is finding a way to make distributed decisions on critical issues
Topics (chapters):
(00:00) Alberto Brandolini quote
(00:56) Alberto Brandolini introduction
(01:33) What domain-driven design is
(16:14) The cost-benefit of agreeing
(24:05) Domain-driven design approach in complex environment
(28:19) How no-code and low-code system relate to Domain-Driven Design
(38:28) The role of Domain-Driven Design in driving standards into markets and ecosystems
(48:22) Talent useful for a company like Avanscoperta
(51:24) Alberto Brandolini's breadcrumbs
To find out more about Alberto’s work:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ziobrando
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brando
Website: https://www.avanscoperta.it
Other references and mentions:
Brandolini's law (bullshit asymmetry principle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law
EventStorming https://www.eventstorming.com
Developing the ubiquitous language https://thedomaindrivendesign.io/developing-the-ubiquitous-language
The Conformist pattern https://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2009/07/04/domain-driven-design-conformist
Alberto’s suggested breadcrumbs (things listeners should check out):
Domain-Driven Design Distilled https://www.informit.com/store/domain-driven-design-distilled-9780134434421
Implementing Domain-Driven Design (Red Book) https://www.amazon.com/Implementing-Domain-Driven-Design-Vaughn-Vernon/dp/0321834577
Introducing EventStorming (The Book) https://www.eventstorming.com/book
David Sibbet https://davidsibbet.com
Dave Gray http://www.xplaner.com
Domain-Driven Design Crew · GitHub https://github.com/ddd-crew
Avanscoperta blog: https://blog.avanscoperta.it
Recorded on 09 January 2023.
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